The Rich Roll Podcast #922

The Metrics That Matter: Why Recovery Beats Intensity

Rich Roll with Will Ahmed • 2h • 2025-07-14

About This Episode

WHOOP founder Will Ahmed discusses why most people get fitness wrong and why recovery beats intensity. Covers his journey from overtrained college athlete to building WHOOP by cracking the recovery code. Includes discussion of Michael Phelps' superhuman HRV data.

Key Takeaways

  • HRV is the metric that led to founding WHOOP
  • Recovery matters more than training intensity
  • Moving HRV 5-10% upward over a year is a big win for average people
  • Michael Phelps' HRV data looked superhuman
  • Meditation became a key tool after a panic attack

Topics Covered

Recovery Intensity Wearables Performance Entrepreneurship

Episode Details

Show The Rich Roll Podcast
Host Rich Roll
Guest Will Ahmed
Episode #922
Duration 2h
Published 2025-07-14
HRV Focus Related topic

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